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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:56 pm 
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Right, Cons and DS will be happy to know I've cancelled my PC World order as it still hadn't arrived. :D

Now I need to buy a laptop/ ultrabook/ notepad/ whatever from somewhere else. Any advice? My budget is £4-600, need a decent spec machine that will last me a few years.

Main use will be for using Microsoft Office, browsing, watching movies and maybe a little bit of gaming. Would help if it's quick as well because my old machine was slow as hell and had me tearing my hair out at times.

A decent amount of storage is preferred as well. It's not really urgent but having one would help immensely. Should I buy one now or wait until the new Windows 8 fad has died down?

Any recommendations or help will be much appreciated. :thumbup:

EDIT: For comparison's sake, the order that I cancelled was the ASUS Aspire S5-391 13.3" Ultrabook™ - Onyx Black, that I was about to pay £540 smackeroonies for.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:00 pm 
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Checkout: http://www.novatech.co.uk/modifier.html?s=NNB-978

Got a good rep for building PC's and Laptops not just in the market but with our very own Con and Boro...

Or http://3xs.scan.co.uk/ConfigureSystem.asp?SystemID=1459

Also have an extremely good rep in the gaming community (that don't build their own machines)

Or Finally:

http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/inferno/

Met these guys the other day. Very good at what they do too.

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Cheers TNNE. The first link looks pretty good. :thumbup:

What is an SSD drive? And how does it differ from the other hard drives? I notice it's a bit more pricier than other hard drives for less memory? How does that work?

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Cheers TNNE. The first link looks pretty good. :thumbup:

What is an SSD drive? And how does it differ from the other hard drives? I notice it's a bit more pricier than other hard drives for less memory? How does that work?

SSD is a Solid State Drive.

It is a higher quality Flash cell much like the USB drives we all use. It's expensive to produce so it costs more. It is fast as hell though, 11% faster than a mechanical HDD.

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Riquelminho wrote:
Right, Cons and DS will be happy to know I've cancelled my PC World order as it still hadn't arrived. :D

Now I need to buy a laptop/ ultrabook/ notepad/ whatever from somewhere else. Any advice? My budget is £4-600, need a decent spec machine that will last me a few years.

Main use will be for using Microsoft Office, browsing, watching movies and maybe a little bit of gaming. Would help if it's quick as well because my old machine was slow as hell and had me tearing my hair out at times.

A decent amount of storage is preferred as well. It's not really urgent but having one would help immensely. Should I buy one now or wait until the new Windows 8 fad has died down?

Any recommendations or help will be much appreciated. :thumbup:

EDIT: For comparison's sake, the order that I cancelled was the ASUS Aspire S5-391 13.3" Ultrabook™ - Onyx Black, that I was about to pay £540 smackeroonies for.



Cancelling is the best thing you can ever do with a PC World order. That was a close call! :phew:

That's not a very fast Asus model you'd picked either, reviews said it was pricey, pretty but low on performance for the money. PCMag said about it: "...it falls short of delivering the sort of user experience we expect from a machine in this price range. The end result is an ultrabook that is perfectly adequate, if slightly dissatisfying."

Spec wise, you need nothing but an HD screen for your movies and a fairly modern CPU (i5 3320 is a nice choice that beats my current desktop 2500K... :cry: ), but as usual it's the gaming that's going to determine what you need.

So when you say maybe gaming... what sorts of game might you want to play? Can you give me a couple of examples of games you might be interested in playing? What's the most demanding game you currently play? Any upcoming title that's taken your interest? That sorta thing, the more demanding they are the better 'cause then I can make sure it can do what you want it to.

As for storage, you're best off avoiding SSD/flash drives imo, while there is a speed boost they're pricey, tiny by comparison, and depending on the brand, not as reliable as their mechanical counterparts.

Windows 8 shouldn't affect your purchase. Do you even need a new OS? You can use your previous serial number if you want... or opt to pay for Windows 7 again... or source a copy from elsewhere. If you do want to reuse a serial number, look here for info and links to Windows downloads etc. just select the version you own and you're away:
Click The Link...http://www.pcworld.com/article/248995/how_to_install_windows_7_without_the_disc.html


Anyway let me know about your gaming intentions, and I'll have a look around. Once I know what graphics chip you'll need, then I can work out what else EG screen size etc. the remainder of your budget will pay for. In any case you should get something pretty good for £600, even better specs. if you don't buy the OS which will probably swallow £80-£100 of your budget.

And I second the nut's named eric's company recommendations. :thumbup:

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My novatech PC is still going :thumbup: though i've just had to buy a new PSU as the current one was making a hell of a noise and kept just stopping, but it's old, and I probably haven't cleaned it out as often as I should.

Otherwise, it's been top notch. Their customer service has been great IMO too. Generally get an answer within a day if I email them with a problem (like when I needed to re-format my HDDs and didnt have a disc for the OS, as I didn't pay for one, so in the end they just sent me one for free as I whinged for a couple of days).

Can't knock em too much.

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Cancelling is the best thing you can ever do with a PC World order. That was a close call! :phew:

That's not a very fast Asus model you'd picked either, reviews said it was pricey, pretty but low on performance for the money. PCMag said about it: "...it falls short of delivering the sort of user experience we expect from a machine in this price range. The end result is an ultrabook that is perfectly adequate, if slightly dissatisfying."

Spec wise, you need nothing but an HD screen for your movies and a fairly modern CPU (i5 3320 is a nice choice that beats my current desktop 2500K... :cry: ), but as usual it's the gaming that's going to determine what you need.

So when you say maybe gaming... what sorts of game might you want to play? Can you give me a couple of examples of games you might be interested in playing? What's the most demanding game you currently play? Any upcoming title that's taken your interest? That sorta thing, the more demanding they are the better 'cause then I can make sure it can do what you want it to.

As for storage, you're best off avoiding SSD/flash drives imo, while there is a speed boost they're pricey, tiny by comparison, and depending on the brand, not as reliable as their mechanical counterparts.

Windows 8 shouldn't affect your purchase. Do you even need a new OS? You can use your previous serial number if you want... or opt to pay for Windows 7 again... or source a copy from elsewhere. If you do want to reuse a serial number, look here for info and links to Windows downloads etc. just select the version you own and you're away:
Click The Link...http://www.pcworld.com/article/248995/how_to_install_windows_7_without_the_disc.html


Anyway let me know about your gaming intentions, and I'll have a look around. Once I know what graphics chip you'll need, then I can work out what else EG screen size etc. the remainder of your budget will pay for. In any case you should get something pretty good for £600, even better specs. if you don't buy the OS which will probably swallow £80-£100 of your budget.

And I second the nut's named eric's company recommendations. :thumbup:


Apologies for the late reply as I've been in a bubble for the past couple of days without any internet connection and relying on my phone.

In terms of gaming, nothing too intensive - just the odd Football Manager game or flash/ Shockwave player based games. I'm not much of a gamer really, but the option may be nice to have. :D

I have a Windows 7 PC already running at home - would I be able to use that serial number? Or would I have to buy a separate one?

Cheers Con, your expert advice is much appreciated. :thumbup:

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My novatech PC is still going :thumbup: though i've just had to buy a new PSU as the current one was making a hell of a noise and kept just stopping, but it's old, and I probably haven't cleaned it out as often as I should.

Otherwise, it's been top notch. Their customer service has been great IMO too. Generally get an answer within a day if I email them with a problem (like when I needed to re-format my HDDs and didnt have a disc for the OS, as I didn't pay for one, so in the end they just sent me one for free as I whinged for a couple of days).

Can't knock em too much.


Sounds promising!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:55 am 
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See what you think of this one:

http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/Voyager/

Upgrades I'd pick are:

Screen: Full HD 1920x1080 17"
CPU: i5 3320M
RAM: 8GB Kingston
GRAPHICS: nVidia GeForce 640M (will play the demanding Battlefield 3 is "playable in 1366x768 and medium settings. Less demanding games, such as Modern Warfare 3, are easily playable with maxed out settings and high resolutions" Linky
HDD: 500GB SATAII 5,400RPM

Deduct Windows and it comes in at £606. Not bad at all.

If you need more storage, and your budget allows, 1TB of space makes it £638, or among the faster drives the 7200RPM 750GB Western Digital WD Scorpio Black makes it £628 - which is the one I'd go for as WD drives are reliable and quick.

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conscience wrote:
See what you think of this one:

http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/Voyager/

Upgrades I'd pick are:

Screen: Full HD 1920x1080 17"
CPU: i5 3320M
RAM: 8GB Kingston
GRAPHICS: nVidia GeForce 640M (will play the demanding Battlefield 3 is "playable in 1366x768 and medium settings. Less demanding games, such as Modern Warfare 3, are easily playable with maxed out settings and high resolutions" Linky
HDD: 500GB SATAII 5,400RPM

Deduct Windows and it comes in at £606. Not bad at all.

If you need more storage, and your budget allows, 1TB of space makes it £638, or among the faster drives the 7200RPM 750GB Western Digital WD Scorpio Black makes it £628 - which is the one I'd go for as WD drives are reliable and quick.


Now that is one beast of a laptop :D

I think I may go for the 1TB drive too, I think this should serve me well for a good few years.

As for Windows, do I need the installation disk?

Cheers Con. :thumbup:

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Riquelminho wrote:
Now that is one beast of a laptop :D

I think I may go for the 1TB drive too, I think this should serve me well for a good few years.

As for Windows, do I need the installation disk?

Cheers Con. :thumbup:


No reason why it won't last a while, it's well overpowered for an Office/internet laptop so shouldn't give you any bother with that stuff for years to come, and the level of games it can play isn't too shabby either for a laptop... even one of just a generation or two ago. If you're serious about movies and/or getting the best out of that HD screen, you can also upgrade the internal DVD drive to a Bluray/DVD combo for about £40 if you've not seen it, dunno how important that would be to you. I didn't include it because it takes it too far over budget but it's in section three if you're interested.

After you download the relevant version of Windows from the link posted, then just burn the .iso file to a blank DVD boot disk with your normal DVD burning software and use that for the install. 64bit Windows would give you the full use of all 8GB, you won't get to use more than 4GB max. with any of the 32bit versions unfortunately. When you've ordered, and you're ready to get Windows and burn the DVD, if you send me a PM and let me know I'll get you started and help out if you get stuck.

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