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Author:  JSP [ Fri May 09, 2014 9:02 am ]
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Lionel Messi has taken issue with the Spanish press for debating his next career move while insisting Barcelona will not let the opportunity to retain the Primera Division title slip from their grasp.

Media speculation in Spain has linked the Argentina striker with a move away from Nou Camp - where he has won six La Liga titles and three Champions League trophies - in the summer amid apparent concerns over his happiness.

Yet, conversely, it has also been suggested Messi could soon sign a new bumper contract that would tie him to the Catalan giants until 2019.

The 26-year-old has, however, distanced himself from all the swirling rumours, stressing he is solely focused on helping Barca win their two remaining league games.

Quoted in Marca, Messi said: "They have said a lot of things during the year.

"Many atrocities have come out, most of them lies. I'm fine."

Following Sunday's trip to Elche, Barca host Atleti on the final day of the season and have a clearer path to snatching top spot given third-placed Real Madrid's failure to beat Real Valladolid on Wednesday.

Should Gerardo Martino's men finish the campaign level on points with Atleti, Barca will take the La Liga crown based on their superior head-to-head record against Los Rojiblancos.

"Today we are in a better position than in recent weeks," Messi added. "We can see that the possibility to win the league is there and depends solely on what we do.

"We must seize this opportunity and not let it escape us."

Author:  JSP [ Fri May 16, 2014 12:50 pm ]
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Lionel Messi has agreed a new contract with Barcelona which will make him the best-paid player in the world.

Details of the new contract were not disclosed, but the deal follows lengthy negotiations.

It was reported that the 26-year-old insisted on overtaking Real Madrid's Cristiano Ronaldo as the world's highest-paid player.

Reports in Spain suggest Messi's new deal will see the Argentina superstar paid a basic salary of £16.3m a year, with added performance-based incentives.

A statement on the club's website read: "FC Barcelona has reached an agreement to adjust the terms in the contract binding Leo Messi to the club as a professional first-team player.

"The revised and updated contract will be signed over the next few days."

The news is a huge boost for the club ahead of Barcelona's crunch clash with Atletico Madrid on Saturday, which the Catalans must win if they are to win the Spanish title. A draw will be good enough for Atletico to win La Liga.

And speaking at a press conference ahead of the match, Barca coach

Gerardo Martino welcomed the news of Messi's contract.

"It should give peace to him and especially to the club, who can continue to

count on the best player in the world," he said.

Messi has scored 28 goals in 30 league appearances to lead Barca's challenge for the title once again, and has 41 in all competitions this season.

In all he has scored 354 goals in 424 official matches for Barca - no-one has scored more in the club's history.

The new contract will see Messi move into a second decade with the club. He joined at the age of 13 and came through the junior ranks before making his first-team debut during the 2004-05 season.

He has gone on to win six La Liga titles, three Champions League crowns, two Copa del Reys, two Club World Cups and two European Super Cups.

Author:  JSP [ Tue May 27, 2014 10:46 pm ]
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In 2012, U.S. sportswriter Wright Thompson travelled to Rosario, Lionel Messi’s hometown, to learn more about the city’s most famous son since Che Guevara. The best footballer in the world is an intriguing enigma: painfully shy and seemingly taciturn in interviews, he only comes to life in public on the football pitch, where he sparkles like no player in history has before and perhaps like no player will again.

Thompson hoped that seeing where Messi grew up and what he came from would allow him to gain a better understanding of Messi the man, a celebrity whose face and name are recognised all over the world but one who, caught between the demands of his Argentine past and his Catalan present, cannot be said to have a singular identity. What Thompson found was surprising and depressing in equal measure: nothing.

Well, not ‘nothing’ in a literal sense – he found Messi’s family home still standing and still owned by the family, and he was fortunate enough to chat to Messi’s brothers, who were loitering outside, as well as the doctor who first treated Messi with growth hormone injections – but he found that the prevalent feeling towards the most iconic footballer of his generation in his hometown was one of apathy.

There was nothing in the city to commemorate Messi’s achievements or to bask in his fame: no photos of the city’s most famous sportsman on the walls of its bars, no daubs of his name on any of the walls and no-one as enthused by his exploits as Thompson himself. Most of the Rosarinos he approached preferred to focus on the fact that Messi had left Argentina at a young age. He appeared in their eyes to have forfeited the right to be affiliated with their city. He was no more related to them than Cristiano Ronaldo or Neymar.

Nineteen months after Thompson visited Rosario, I found myself in the city with a couple of Argentine friends. We had managed to get free tickets to watch Central play Gimnasia and had made the three-hour drive up from Buenos Aires in order to spend a few days seeing the sights. All being equally football-obsessed, we were excited by the opportunity to see Messi’s roots and pay our respects to the great man on the hallowed turf where it all began.

For me in particular, this was a tantalising prospect. I have been enthralled by Messi since pretty much the first time I saw him play on television in 2004. I have travelled to Barcelona to see him play on five occasions and I have been something of a good luck charm for him. In the matches I have seen, he has scored fourteen goals – and some of his best.

The first time I saw him, he played three consecutive one-twos with Dani Alves to work his way through Real Sociedad’s defence before rolling the ball past the goalkeeper. Later in the same game, he beat the entire back four, dribbling horizontally past them all before firing his shot into the far corner. Before my next game, against Bayer Leverkusen, I made sure to be pitchside to see him at close quarters: he scored five times. He added four more in Pep Guardiola’s last game at Camp Nou as Barcelona manager, including a perfectly arrowed drive that was hit from right in front of me.

Like any other Messi fan, I was aware that he was not really considered popular in Argentina, due in equal parts to never having represented a club there and to the perception that he had failed to play to his maximum for the national team. The maxim that all Argentines prefer Carlos Tevez was one of which I was aware, but I hoped it had passed its sell-by date.

I believed that Messi’s record-breaking goal haul for Argentina in 2012 coupled with Tevez’s fall from grace had righted this wrong. Even if Messi’s national team form was somehow not enough, the body of work he had amassed at Barcelona stood without equal. Messi is damn near indisputably the best footballer ever to lace his boots – surely his fellow Rosarinos would be proud of that.

Thompson’s article gave us the address of the old family home, located a few miles from the city centre in an area of which unaccompanied tourists would be best advised to stay well clear, while a few more minutes of research gave us the location of the pitch on which Messi played his first football at five years old, captured in a video that went viral almost as soon as he burst onto the scene with Barcelona.

The barrio in which both are situated, General Las Heras, is obviously significantly poorer than the city centre of Rosario. As we approached, I was on the lookout for signifiers that matched Thompson’s descriptions and saw them in abundance. We passed the same grubby, imposing tower blocks, the same stray dogs by the roadside and the same brightly coloured but peeling murals, including the one of the Rolling Stones. As when Thompson visited, there was no mention of Messi.

We found the family house, parked the car and got out. It was a bizarre moment: after all, a house is just a house, regardless of who it belongs to. This particular one had evidently been as modest as those around it for the majority of its existence, but now a tall iron rail fence had been erected in front and small security cameras and intercoms placed by the door and the mailbox. We all knew there was no way Messi was within 6,000 miles of the spot, yet it was hard to imagine ever being closer in proximity to him.

A few neighbours milled around in front of their houses further down the street, strangely paying our trio, comprised of a couple of relatively wealthy guys from Buenos Aires and an obvious extranjero, no attention whatsoever. Clearly, the locals are used to visitors coming to gawk at the barrio’s biggest attraction.

For a few moments we stood outside, staring at the house and wondering whether we should knock and leave a message. We decided the idea was too brazenly silly to countenance. I wished I had realised that Messi’s house, like any other, would have a mailbox, so that I could have brought a note thanking him for his football and letting him know that, in the extremely unlikely event that he felt like he needed my approval, he had it.

Next, we made our way to Centro de Educación Fisica No 8, where Grandoli FC, the children’s team Messi represented, play their games. We drove around searching for a few minutes, stumbling across unkempt patches of grass that could have been the one but did not look quite right, before, spotting a field much larger than the others – big enough to accommodate a full size pitch but nothing else – overshadowed by two tower blocks on one side and open on the other. Suddenly and simultaneously we all said aloud, “there it is!”

Entering via an open gate, we stood on the adjacent set of steps that make up the small supporters’ terrace. We loaded up the YouTube video of Messi aged five and saw on the screen the same field that we saw before our eyes. This was, without a shadow of a doubt, the spot where Messi’s family had brought little Leo in 1992 and watched in awe as he revealed himself to have powers above and beyond the comprehension of anyone on the planet.

I was not expecting anything to mark the site like the spectacular mural of Carlos Tevez in his home barrio, the infamous Fuerte Apache in Buenos Aires, but the silence and emptiness I found in General Las Heras was just as remarkable.

There was no reference to Messi anywhere. The walls around the Grandoli pitch were, by Argentine standards, unusually free of graffiti. There was no sign or indication that we could see that confirmed that this was the spot where Messi first kicked a ball in anger. It was just a kids’ pitch, no different to any other I had seen except for the cloud of hungry mosquitoes which hovered above it at ankle height.

It is hard to imagine that there is a more encouraging message one can send to the youngsters that continue to learn with Grandoli than Messi’s: that despite the huge disadvantages faced by the kids that grow up in their environment, talent, hard work and sacrifice can still take them wherever they want to go. The very best is one of them. Still, nothing. It is like he was never there at all.

I immediately set about speaking to as many Argentines as possible about their thoughts on Messi. The two friends accompanying me on this trip had already explained that they preferred Diego Maradona, whose style they felt was more authentically Argentine: more individual, courageous and full of heart. Messi’s relatively cold, clinical ruthlessness made him a product more than a player – the best graduate of the best school in the world as opposed to a bona fide gift from the gods. Most others I spoke to shared that view.

“We don't know him; he's never played here,” I was told by one of the first people I asked. When I put it to him that Messi was the best player in the world, he rolled his eyes. “There are many better players - Cristiano, for one.”

A Central fan told me that Argentina was very much like England in that most people would much rather their club does well than the national team. Consequently, their idols tend not to be the best Argentines from an objective standpoint, but those that best represent the side that they go and watch every weekend.

Perhaps the most illuminating response came from a friend who explained that cultural differences have a lot to do with my perception of Argentina’s coldness towards Messi: “Sometimes I feel like in Europe people rush into recognising and celebrating players who have done nothing for you or your club. Example: buying a Ronaldo Real Madrid jersey as soon as he was signed. What? Why?”

It is evident that many Argentine fans feel that a debt is owed by Messi to his country. They will not love him until he has repaid it.

“Here he is a nobody. He may deserve a statue in Barcelona, but in Argentina... when he delivers a World Cup, maybe.”

This brings us back to the present and the 2014 World Cup, shortly to kick-off in Brazil. There is no doubt that if Messi were to dominate the tournament, leading Argentina to glory and lifting the trophy in the Maracanã, of all places, then the debate over his standing would end overnight. He would join Maradona as an untouchable and the adulation would continue for decades after his career’s end.

Through no fault of his own, however, Messi is very probably not going to lift the World Cup on July 13th. Argentina’s squad is just not strong enough to accomplish the feat. First choice goalkeeper Sergio Romero plays second fiddle to Croatia’s Danijel Subašić at Monaco and has made just four appearances this season. While Pablo Zabaleta and Ezequiel Garay are very capable defenders, their probable colleagues Federico Fernández and Marcos Rojo inspire much less confidence.

From a tactical point of view, too, Argentina are at a disadvantage. They are likely to play a very vertical counter-attacking game, sitting deep and springing forward with Ángel Di María, Sergio Agüero and Gonzalo Higuaín as well as Messi, an approach which maximises the four’s individual ability by allowing them lots of space with which to work, but one that has no recent history of success at this level. There is not a great deal on the bench that suggests they are going to be capable of changing their approach should an opponent park the bus.

Alejandro Sabella’s men are likely to carry on the tradition established by sides like Jogi Löw’s Germany and José Mourinho’s Real Madrid, whose shock-and-awe reactivism destroyed most opponents who allowed themselves to be suckered in to playing high up the pitch, but collapsed when sides twigged what was going on and simply sat deep and refused to be drawn out. Romania, a limited side who will not be at the World Cup Finals, held Argentina to a goalless draw in March by doing exactly that.

If and when Argentina are eliminated, the popular reaction in Argentina will be one of realism. Everyone I know there understands that the goalkeeping situation is a huge problem, that the defence is some way short of being dynamic enough and that the system used is worryingly one-dimensional. Messi will not be blamed for their eventual defeat.

At the same time, he will not earn the adulation that he deserves from his countrymen. When he retires and returns to Rosario, he will not be treated like Maradona, remaining widely revered forever. He will be continually reminded that he never played for Newell’s Old Boys; that he did nothing for the national team; that he never repaid the debt his talent meant that he owed – one that his colleagues’ deficiencies meant he never could repay to begin with.

It may seem bizarre to find a multimillionaire athlete widely accepted as the greatest in his field the object of pity – particularly when rumours abound that his conduct towards teammates has at times been more than questionable and when the fact is that, of his own volition or otherwise, he avoided paying up to €15m in tax between 2010 and 2012 – but pity is what I will feel for Lionel Messi when the curtain comes down on his career and the records show that he never won the World Cup.

He will always be caught between the two cities that define him. In Barcelona, he will be worshipped but not quite accepted. A significant element will remember him as the foreigner who stashed his money off-shore, forever avoided speaking in Catalan and had Argentine meat shipped in by the planeload. In Rosario, the burden of what he never achieved will always count for more than what he did. He has never forgotten where he came from, but his countrymen will never forget that he left.

Unless Messi wins the 2014 World Cup, he will never have a place in the world where he fits in with everyone else. Yes, he will have money, awards and unprecedented professional acclaim, as well as a loving nuclear family and close relationships with the people with whom he grew up. He will still be an incredibly fortunate man, by all accounts, but he will never have a home.

Author:  JSP [ Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:56 pm ]
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Barcelona forward Lionel Messi is the most valuable player in world football and worth almost twice as much as Cristiano Ronaldo, according to a study by the CIES Football Observatory.

The ninth edition of the annual football review has estimated the Argentina international's value at £161.5million ahead of second-placed Ronaldo on £85.2m and Liverpool's Luis Suarez, whose worth is put at £79.4m.

Chelsea's Eden Hazard and Messi's Barcelona team-mate Neymar complete the top five, valued at £61.2m and £50.6m respectively.

Meanwhile, Ronaldo's Real Madrid team-mate Gareth Bale comes in at seventh, valued at £50.9m, almost £30m less than the world-record £80.6m fee Real Madrid paid Tottenham for the Wales international's services last year.

Colombia striker Radamel Falcao and Argentina winger Erik Lamela have seen their values fall by more than 50 per cent since completing transfers 12 months ago.

Falcao joined Monaco for £48.4m from Atletico Madrid last season and is now worth £22.7m, according to the study, while Lamela, who joined Tottenham for a fee of £28.2m from Roma, is valued at £13.6m.

The 96-page publication also found Real Madrid fielded the most expensive starting line-up ever during their successful 2013/2014 UEFA Champions League campaign with average transfer expenditure per player of over £24m.

By contrast, La Liga winners and Champions League runner-ups Atletico Madrid had average transfer fees of just £3.2m per player.

The CIES Football Observatory uses a database that has been developed since 2005 and will disclose their 2014 World Cup predictions based on their formula within the next week.

Author:  JSP [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:08 pm ]
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A Spanish court will push ahead with prosecuting the Barcelona forward Lionel Messi for alleged tax evasion despite a recommendation from the public prosecutor the charges be dismissed.

The prosecutor argued in June that Messi’s father Jorge was responsible for the family’s finances and not the four-times World Player of the Year.

However, the court in Barcelona has decided that Lionel Messi could have known about and approved the creation of a web of shell companies that were allegedly used to evade taxes due on income from image rights. The judge in the case ruled that the case against both Messis should continue.

Argentina’s Messi and his father were accused last year of defrauding the Spanish state of more than €4m (£3.1m) by filing false returns for the years 2006 to 2009. They have denied wrongdoing.

One of the world’s highest-paid athletes, Messi earns just over $40m (£23.5m) a season in salary and bonuses, according to Forbes magazine, as well as about $23m from sponsors.

The magazine has him as the fourth top-earning athlete behind the boxer Floyd Mayweather, Real Madrid footballer Cristiano Ronaldo and basketball player LeBron James.

Author:  JSP [ Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:15 pm ]
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Lionel Messi is the best player in the world, according to his Barcelona team-mate Neymar and boss Luis Enrique.

The Argentine, 27, created Neymar's two goals on Saturday as Barca beat Athletic Bilbao 2-0 to top La Liga.

"Messi is a star. I am improving playing with him," said Brazil's Neymar, 22, who came off the substitutes' bench at the Nou Camp.

"He does things in training that I have not even seen... on the Playstation," said Enrique.

Barca were struggling to break down Bilbao until substitute Neymar struck in the 79th minute, running on to a threaded Messi pass and scoring with a low shot.

Four-time World Player of the Year Messi set up the Brazil forward for his second five minutes later, dribbling down the right and squaring for an unmarked Neymar to pick his spot in the same corner.

"Messi is the best not only because of his goals but also for his assists," said Enrique. "It is a pleasure and a privilege to have him in the team."

Messi struck twice in Barca's 3-0 home win against Elche in their opening game of the campaign and set up Sandro Ramirez to score in their 1-0 success at Villarreal on their second outing.

Seeking to improve on last season's second-placed finish to Atletico Madrid, Barcelona are the only team with a perfect record of three wins in three La Liga games.

"I am very happy with Saturday's match, it went perfectly, with two goals," said Neymar, who was inconsistent in his debut season in Spain in 2013-14.

"I returned from international duty feeling a bit tired, it was a long journey. I hope that this year is my year."

I'm getting a bit bored of the Barca boys coming out every week with the same well Messi is the best... stuff normally shortly followed by the Madrid lads saying well Cristiano is the best...

They're both awesome footballers who will both be remembers as the players who dominated this era of football I personally don't think you can really say one is better than the other as football isn't an individual sport it's a team sport and both have probably helped push each other on to the levels they are achieving.

Barca won 2-0 thanks to 2 goals from Neymar but everyone seems to be tredding on egg shells to say they won because of Messi not because of Neymar because they don't want to upset Messi.

Author:  Mr Carrot [ Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:04 pm ]
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Yeah, Chico said Ronaldo was better than Messi yesterday :lol:

We all know Di Maria is the best :)

Author:  JSP [ Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:14 pm ]
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I know why they do it it's because to win the Ballon D'Or you need to have the club PR machine fully behind you and on message in terms of who the best player is for me Ronaldo should win it again but Messi outshone him at the World Cup certainly in the group stages as Ronaldo clearly wasn't fit.

I'm just not sure it does a lot for team morale to have these players almost as god like symbols that everyone has to pay lip service to the message should always be about the team not the individual it's something I've noticed creeping more and more in to modern football the emphasis on looking at an individual. This is a team sport and great individuals can stand out in teams but at the end of the day Messi needs the other 10 guys on the pitch to help him play as well as he does same goes for Ronaldo.

Author:  JSP [ Sun Nov 23, 2014 3:56 pm ]
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Lionel Messi set a La Liga scoring record of 253 goals with his latest hat-trick, as Barcelona brushed aside Sevilla. The previous mark has been held by former Athletic Bilbao striker Telmo Zarra since 1955, which marked the end of the Spaniard’s 15-year career with the Basque club. Zarra scored his 251 goals in 277 appearances while Argentina captain Messi needed 289 games.

“We are all very happy and of course also for Leo,” Xavi, the Barça captain, said. “He has achieved an amazing and historic record.”

Messi, 27, equalled the record in the 21st minute with a typically breathtaking effort, curling a left-footed free kick around the wall and past Sevilla goalkeeper Beto. He struck again from close range in the 72nd minute and scored a third goal six minutes later with a powerful low drive from the edge of the penalty area.

Messi’s team-mates picked him up and threw him into the air several times while his adoring fans at the Camp Nou wildly cheered their talisman who joined the club’s academy at the age of 13. The four-times World Player of the Year has scored 206 goals with his favoured left foot, 38 with his right, eight with his head and one, which should have been ruled out, with his hand.

If anyone had said when the callow teenager netted his first La Liga goal in May 2005 he would break Zarra’s top-flight scoring record within a decade they would have been dismissed as a lunatic. Yet that is what he has achieved, taking 10 seasons to overhaul Zarra – also setting a remarkable record for goals in a single campaign of 50 in 2011-12 – and the illustrious names he has leapfrogged give some indication of the scale of his feat.

Hugo Sánchez (234 goals), Raúl (228), Alfredo Di Stéfano (227) and César Rodríguez (226) have been left trailing and, with years left in his career, Messi’s eventual tally could stand as long as Zarra’s – if not a lot longer.

Messi also has a share of the Champions League scoring record, having equalled Raúl’s haul of 71 goals this month, and he could overhaul it in Tuesday’s game at Apoel Nicosia.

Messi’s goals-per-game ratio in La Liga is second only to Zarra’s, who amassed his 251 in a mere 277 matches, while the Barça attacker needed 289 games. Sánchez’s 234 came in 347 matches, Raúl needed 550 games to reach 228 and Di Stéfano required 329 for his 227 goals.

Anyone who has watched Messi in recent years knows he can do things with a football that seem to defy the laws of physics and he does not fit into the mould of a traditional striker. Most of the other players at the top of the charts were considered out-and-out goalscorers, while Messi tends to roam the pitch. His ability to dribble at speed past opponents is outstanding and, as well as netting a phenomenal number of goals, he regularly sets up team-mates to score.

“Messi has something magical about him when the ball touches his feet,” the former Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has said. “It’s as if it has landed on a bed of feathers.”

Author:  JSP [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:01 pm ]
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Lionel Messi insists he will not leave Barcelona and says any talk linking him with a move away from the club is 'lies'.

Messi's future with the Catalan giants has been the subject of much speculation in recent weeks, with stories circulating that he is unhappy with coach Luis Enrique's tactical approach to the game.

Barcelona president Josep Maria Bartomeu played down claims Messi was looking to leave last week and the player has now spoken out as well, criticising people he feels are trying to unsettle him and the club.

"I don't demand anything for me to stay because I have no intention of leaving anywhere," he told Barca TV.

"I've heard stories I've spoken to Chelsea or City, that's all lies. I have taken this chance to deny it so that everyone knows the truth. I am grateful to be able to give my version of events."

Messi, speaking after playing a big part in helping them beat reigning La Liga champions Atletico Madrid 3-1, is also determined to show a united front within the playing ranks at the Nou Camp.

"It hurts me because it comes from here, from Barcelona, from people that love the club, or say they do. It doesn't come from Madrid like it has in the past," he added.

"It is not good that they look for rivalry between Luis Enrique and I because there isn't any,"

"I've heard so many things. There have been things said in the past that I have bad relationships with (Pep) Guardiola, (Samuel) Eto'o, Bojan, Ibra (Zlatan Ibrahimovic), that's not true.

"I never asked for them to get rid of the coach or anybody. That's not true, I would never do that.

"More than ever we have to be united

"They try to make out that I run the club, I'm just another player in the squad like my team-mates. I don't make decisions, I don't want to make decisions."

Author:  Nee-mania Vidic [ Sun Jun 07, 2015 12:35 pm ]
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i do realise that he is settled in Barcelona , a club that has done a lot for him and vice versa, but its time he tests new waters....time to test himself on a cold wet night in Stoke...

Author:  JSP [ Sun Jun 07, 2015 12:46 pm ]
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The only way Messi will ever play at Stoke is if they somehow make it to the Champions League

Author:  Nee-mania Vidic [ Sun Jun 07, 2015 12:49 pm ]
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haha...of course you know what i mean.. :tap:

Author:  borocooper [ Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:27 pm ]
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Would love to see him have a crack at another league. But I can't imagine him doing it or anyone being able to afford him anyway.

Author:  pakrooney [ Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:23 pm ]
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I dont think he will ever leave barca .. he is a barcelona player through n through and he may not excel in same manner at other club ..

Author:  JSP [ Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:00 pm ]
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Lionel Messi is to face trial over an alleged €4.1m tax fraud after a Barcelona court turned down an appeal made by his lawyers aimed at avoiding him having to sit in the dock.

According El Pais, the court felt there was evidence that the Barcelona forward “benefited” from a network of companies that allowed him to defraud the Spanish Tax Agency of £3.4m in income tax, regardless of whether he had any knowledge of the structures in place. Both father and son deny the allegations.

They are suspected of using companies in Belize and Uruguay to sell the rights to use Lionel Messi’s image, thereby circumventing tax obligations in Spain. The allegations date back to 2007-09.

In August, Jorge Messi made a payment of €5m to the tax authorities – the €4.1m of the alleged unpaid tax plus interest.

Lionel Messi has previously stated that he and and his father “have never committed any infringement. We have always fulfilled all our tax obligations”.

Messi’s net salary from Barcelona is said to be about €16m a year plus multi-million endorsements with commercial sponsors around the world.

He has ended a successful club season in which Barcelona clinched the treble of La Liga, the Copa del Rey and the Champions League and has now joined up with Argentina for the Copa America.

Author:  JSP [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:15 pm ]
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Barcelona prosecutors are calling for the arrest of Lionel Messi’s father in a tax fraud case. Prosecutors have cleared Messi of wrongdoing but are seeking an 18-month prison sentence for his father, Jorge Horacio Messi, for allegedly defrauding Spain’s tax office of €4m (now £3m) in unpaid taxes from 2007-09.

The decision is considered a win for Lionel Messi, who had also been mentioned in the investigation. A Spanish judge had recently rejected an appeal filed by the player’s lawyers to drop the Barcelona star from the case.

In the documents made public on Tuesday, prosecutors also called for a fine of €2m for the father of the Argentina playmaker.

Author:  JSP [ Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:32 pm ]
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Argentina and Barcelona footballer Lionel Messi and his father should stand trial on tax fraud charges, a court in Spain has ruled.

The judge in charge of the case rejected the request by prosecutors to drop the charges against the striker.

Messi and his father Jorge are accused of defrauding Spanish authorities of more than €4m (£3.1m; $5m).

Lawyers acting on behalf of the tax authorities demanded 22-month jail sentences for both defendants.

Prosecutors allege that Jorge avoided paying tax on his son's earnings by using offshore companies in Belize and Uruguay in 2007-09.

Messi's lawyers had argued that the player had "never devoted a minute of his life to reading, studying or analysing" the contracts, El Pais newspaper reported earlier.

'Corrective payment'

"There are rational signs that the criminality was committed by both accused parties," wrote the judge in a court filing, according to the AFP news agency.

No date has been set for the trial of the 28-year-old footballer - the four-time World Player of the Year and one of the richest athletes in the world.

In June, the high court in Barcelona ruled that Messi should not be granted impunity for not knowing what was happening with his finances, which were being managed in part by his father.

The income related to Messi's image rights, including contracts with Banco Sabadell, Danone, Adidas, Pepsi-Cola, Procter and Gamble, and the Kuwait Food Company.

Messi and his father made a voluntary €5m "corrective payment" - equal to the alleged unpaid tax plus interest - in August 2013.

Author:  pakrooney [ Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Is Messi the greatest ever?

22 months is almost 2 seasons .. I think most of it will fall on his father if judgement is made in favor of tax authorities

Author:  JSP [ Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Is Messi the greatest ever?

pakrooney wrote:
22 months is almost 2 seasons .. I think most of it will fall on his father if judgement is made in favor of tax authorities

I'm not sure when it comes to tax it is YOUR responsibility to make sure your affairs are in order if they're not while you can take someone down with you it's very hard to get yourself off the hook.

Unless Messi has signed legal documents that give his father full control over this it's going to be very hard for him to wriggle out of it because if Lionels signature is on anything he's liable regardless of whether or not he knew what he was signing up to.

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