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 Post subject: The Dawn Of An New Era (hopefully)
PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:03 pm 
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was thinking of adding this to the 'race for the whitehouse' thread, but i thought due to the significance of this historical event, i thought it deserved its own thread

tomorrow, barrack hussein obama, will be sworn in as the 44th president of the united states of america, the first african american to take office, after 8 years of the bush administration, and to take the words of the man him self, its time to chance, although there is alot to change, and alot of difficult times ahead, none of it will be resolved over night, with america in its worse economic crises, its involvement it two wars in the middle east, and the current isreal conflict, hopefully this man can set out to complete the tasks he has been entrusted with, and hopefully, make the US and the rest of the world a better place than it has been in the last few years

good luck to you mr obama

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There's certainly a hell of a lot of pressure on this man. He's got to rebuild America's relationship with the world while trying to win the war on terror.

Good luck to him he'll need it.


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He won't do rugger all different imo, he is just a puppet for the folks who really run that country.

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whit lane red wrote:
He won't do rugger all different imo, he is just a puppet for the folks who really run that country.


Are you wearing Professor Chaos's tin-foil hat again?

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He won't do rugger all different imo, he is just a puppet for the folks who really run that country.


Are you wearing Professor Chaos's tin-foil hat again?

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No mate just stating what I believe will be the case. What is it some folk think will happen? Free KFC for all with everyone singing this..



please.. :lol:

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whit lane red wrote:
He won't do rugger all different imo, he is just a puppet for the folks who really run that country.


100% agree with ya.

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It's a nice sentiment, but wishful thinking I feel. I agree with Whit. The new guy will do what he's told, just like Bush did.

... and as for a better world ... what makes you think they actually want one? Seriously, they can put a man on the moon, build a space station, clone stuff... you think people with that kind of power, talent and resources can't sort out a crappy school/health system or crime or end wars if they really wanted to?

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It's a nice sentiment, but wishful thinking I feel. I agree with Whit. The new guy will do what he's told, just like Bush did.

... and as for a better world ... what makes you think they actually want one? Seriously, they can put a man on the moon, build a space station, clone stuff... you think people with that kind of power, talent and resources can't sort out a crappy school/health system or crime or end wars if they really wanted to?


A President elected on essentially how many donations he gets aint a democracy. :thumbup:

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It's all one big conspiracy. Hail the Illuminatus!

He's already made some important decisions regarding his foreign policy and science teams, suggesting a very different approach to his predecessor.

And education delivery in America is, I believe, more a matter of state policy, not federal.


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It's all one big conspiracy. Hail the Illuminatus!

He's already made some important decisions regarding his foreign policy and science teams, suggesting a very different approach to his predecessor.

And education delivery in America is, I believe, more a matter of state policy, not federal.


:snigger: We're all aware of a capitalist conspiracy - that's the point of it, rich men getting richer. However, the part about lizard people arriving in a space ship I'm not convinced about tbh :lol: But a ruling elite looking out for themselves over the rest of us? Since the dawn of mankind probably.

But that said, it's one of those where I'd be more than happy to be wrong and I do hope he does some sensible sane things like end the wars and use America's wealth to do some good for a change - but I'm not holding my breath.

Also, from some figures I saw the other week, America's education system is so underfunded compared to poorer nations it's quite shocking.

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Well he's going to have his own adminstration in their with their own ideas. So I can't see them following on the Neo-con policies of the Bush adminstration. As O-D has said, he's already pointed out a few changes to foreign policy. He's talked about changes in healthcare and bank regulation. Can't see a big change to policy with Israel and the middle east. But it will be interesting to see what kind of change he will make.

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Well he's going to have his own adminstration in their with their own ideas. So I can't see them following on the Neo-con policies of the Bush adminstration. As O-D has said, he's already pointed out a few changes to foreign policy. He's talked about changes in healthcare and bank regulation. Can't see a big change to policy with Israel and the middle east. But it will be interesting to see what kind of change he will make.

Thing is though BIH I don't think they make the decisions they only follow them then relay them to the rest of the nation, hell I don't even think they are even in the same State nevermind City as the guys with the real power.
Try Upper East Side Manhattan if you want to know where the sh*t really goes down.. :thumbup:

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His acceptance speech was impressive. I hope he lives up to everyones expectations

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nice touch by the cheif justice, screwing up the oath, went quite well otherwise

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whit lane red wrote:
He won't do rugger all different imo, he is just a puppet for the folks who really run that country.


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bye bye bush, obama has just escorted him out of the building

taxi for bush, well helecopter, but you get the point

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both bush are/were disaster

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Well, I hope that it's the start of a new era; he is liked, and he has the support of the nation, so that's not a bad start. I hope he uses this wave of positivity and gets stuff done straight away. Just heard on the radio that he's going to make a statement about Guantanemo Bay today.


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Reuters - President Obama will turn on Wednesday toward his goals of rescuing the economy, charting a new course for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and shaping his approach to the Middle East conflict.

Obama has pledged bold and swift action to deal with the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. He has also asked Americans for patience in grappling with challenges both foreign and domestic that will take time to resolve.

With financial markets reeling and job losses mounting, Obama will meet with his economic advisers, who are working with the Democratic-led Congress on an $825 billion fiscal stimulus package.

He also is seeking fresh approaches to repair the battered financial system and is mulling a host of ideas, including the creation of a government-run bank that would buy up toxic assets from ailing U.S. banks.

The aim is to rekindle the flow of the credit to the economy so businesses and consumers can get access to loans.

Iraq and Afghanistan will dominate Obama's foreign policy agenda, but he has also said he will take an active role to try to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

He may move quickly to name a Middle East envoy and is strongly considering George Mitchell, a former U.S. senator and veteran international troubleshooter, for the job.

In addition to the economic meeting, Obama will also sit down with top military officials to discuss Iraq and Afghanistan.

He has said he favors a 16-month timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq and U.S. officials said that in his meeting with military leaders, he would discuss the possibility of accelerating their departure.

Obama also will discuss plans to bolster troops in Afghanistan as he meets with a Pentagon delegation led by Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Navy Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Gen. David Petraeus, the former Iraq commander credited with pulling the country from the brink of civil war, was to attend Wednesday's meeting after flying back from Afghanistan.

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A Senate vote is expected on Wednesday on Obama's nomination of Hillary Clinton as secretary of state.

But he will begin his new administration without a Treasury secretary. His nominee for the job, Tim Geithner, will face questions from a Senate panel about his past failure to pay some taxes.

Geithner has said the tax problem stemmed from an error and several senators have said they thought the issue would not prevent his confirmation.

Obama has found a receptive audience on Capitol Hill for his call for aggressive action to help the economy and hopes to garner bipartisan support for the massive stimulus package.

But Republicans have raised questions about the package, including how quickly the money will be spent and whether certain projects will actually kick-start the economy, which has been in a recession for over a year.

Obama is pressing for passage of the package by mid-February.

(Additional reporting by Matt Spetalnick, Jeremy Pelofsky and David Morgan; Editing by Patricia Zengerle)

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The US president, Barack Obama, looked set to suspend the controversial Guantánamo Bay military tribunals, in one of his first actions after being sworn in yesterday.

Within hours of taking office, Obama's administration filed a motion to halt the war crimes trials for 120 days, until his new administration completes a review of the much-criticised system for trying suspected terrorists.

The motion, which will suspend cases against 21 men, was filed at the direction of Obama and Robert Gates, George Bush's defence secretary, who has kept his job in the new administration.

It will be considered today by military judges hearing the cases of five men charged with plotting the September 11 attacks, and that of Omar Khadr, a Canadian who is accused of killing an American soldier with a grenade in Afghanistan, in 2002. The judges will be required to suspend the other cases as well.

The halt to the tribunals was sought "in the interests of justice," the official request to the judges said.

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I though his inauguration speech was spot on - he certainly didn't hold back the criticism of the Bush years.


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